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thanks Jason

Okay, I get all that — but what was on that mini-disc?

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I haven't seen it yet.

And we've a done a good amount of Matrix bashing here before.

But the thing that irks me and makes me wonder whether I even want to bother with this one is this whole Matrix Online crap. Right in that page it says the Matrix Online takes place after Matrix Revolutions ends. So were Matrix 2&3 really all about setting up this giant MUD? The fact that this even exists tips off that Matrix still exists.

This all seems to confirm a nagging suspicion I had after Matrix Reloaded.

I figured "reloaded" was just a clever way of saying Matrix 2 given the tech themes. But the title literally meant that the Matrix was "reloaded" multiple times. In this case you'd think that "revolutions" would mean the humans waging their revolution against the machine. But I kind of expected that they were going for another meaning as of the word, as in going around in circles.

Revolutions is the best of the three. The movie it reminds me most of is The Hulk which I also adored. They are the only two movies to really use special effects without intruding into the plot and feeling of the narrative. I hope to see it again this weekend.

Wow, DJ. I'm shocked.

Didn't you hate the first two?

I haven't seen the Hulk. It was so roundly trashed I skipped it.

I'll check it out now that you recommend it.

No, I loved the first one and still do. The second one was awful. They had trouble splitting the movie into two parts, since the movie is such an event, they should have made it in one release, 5 or 6 hours long, and charged $25 a head.

Also, from the New York Times:

To event-ize another installment would surely mean opening on every screen on the planet. That would be remembered, in the history of our species, as the moment the movie projectors took over the world, from which there was no turning back.

i agree with dj, revolutions is awesome. i would say more but i'm afraid of spoiling the movie for those who haven't seen it. Go to the theaters!

The minidisc had news clippings about Morpheus.

Now I've seen it. I did enjoy it for the most part, but felt like the ending was a massive letdown given what they had set up.

Now I've seen it. I did enjoy it for the most part, but felt like the ending was a massive letdown given what they had set up.

That's how I felt about the first one, so much so that I have little interest in seeing the second or third movies.

That's how I felt about the first one,

Which is exactly like walking out of a movie 30 minutes in, because you didn't like the ending.

See, I thought the ending of the first one is really what opened the door for them to do some amazing things with 2&3, plus set up a resolution to the whole saga.

Now I feel a tad jerked around, as if the potential story arc set up in the first movie was all just a tease.

This is pointed out in the linked thread, but I feel like the promise laid out in Neo's speech at the end of M1 really wasn't delivered on at all in the subsequent movies. It's as if that potential story was jettisoned in favor of a different story.

Which is exactly like walking out of a movie 30 minutes in, because you didn't like the ending.

Hardly! An end is an end. If you want to end your first movie with one of the most pointless and overdone shoot-em-ups of all time, you've lost me. Sorry.

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